Powertrain, generic (extended)

P2165 Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor C Maximum Stop Performance

Check engine lightOn
EmissionsRelevant
Drive cycleNot required
Limp modePossible

P2165 belongs to the rarely used letter C. It is set when position signal C, at the upper stop of its throttle or pedal, reports a value the controller cannot accept as full travel. Since Ford gives A and B to the throttle and D to F to the pedal, C only appears on layouts with a third sensor track or a different naming scheme. No manufacturer documents P2165 publicly; the description follows the A version P2163, which Ford lists, and a Visteon patent on learning the throttle's open stop. Before replacing parts, confirm that the vehicle really uses a sensor C; an aftermarket throttle body or pedal with a different characteristic can also produce the code. P2114 tests the closed stop of C, P2136/P2137 compare C with A or B.

Likely causes

Sensor C track worn at the end of travel
Replacement throttle or pedal with a different characteristic
Mechanical obstruction before the upper stop
Resistance in the sensor C wiring or connector

Symptoms

  • Engine warning lamp on
  • Reduced power at full load

Repair estimate

DifficultyMediumDIY possible
Parts and labour€0–600
Time0.3–2 h

Typical range across vehicles; the real cost depends on what the testing finds.

Parts involved

throttle position sensoraccelerator pedal position sensor

Related codes

References: patents.google.com, newtonnet.co.uk, law.cornell.edu.